Updated 2200AEDST  - 17th November 1999 - J ONeill

November 1999 Forecast Outlook, Discussion & Report Page

ASWA Victoria

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17 Clyve Herbert Thursday: high pressure belt strengthening somewhat & extending across Tasmania and through the south Tasman, then building a ridge progressively northwards along the NSW coast through Thursday 18th and into Friday morning.  A large low pressure area and associated troughs across WA & SA encroaching towards Victoria on Friday. (look out for possible generation of surface trough along western slopes of NSW divide into northern Victoria with the possible generation of isolated convective showers on the north eastern, possibly central divide, late Thursday, possibly Friday). Low pressure area developing over SA and moving SE towards Victoria late Friday 19th or early Saturday 20th.  Unfortunately this system, although it may generate general patchy rain, extensive middle & upper level cloud extending across SE Australia may spoil potential convective activity through Saturday & Sunday, although any breaks may allow the generation of storms through Saturday & Sunday especially near to the trough & low pressure system. This system will probably move into NSW or the Tasman late Sunday 21st, & a high pressure system will build in the Bight area.  This may be good news for our NSW enthusiasts who may see a lingering trough over the NE & E of the state Monday 22nd & Tuesday 23rdwith the subsequent generation of shower & thunderstorm activity mostly contracting NE through next Wednesday 24th & Thursday 25th. Meanwhile a new high in the Bight  from Monday / Tuesday will probably reach towards Tasmania on Tuesday will reach the Tasman probably Wednesday / Thursday with a new trough approaching from SA Wednesday 24th to Friday 26th next week destabilising conditions for Saturday 27th / Sunday 28th.

Potential risks: moisture content will increase this weekend (20/21st), although it appears that this system will be accompanied by large areas of upper and middle level cloud, breaks in the cloudmass may, in some localities, allow the generation of moderate to strong thunderstorm activity, and these localities extend from eastern SA, through Victoria and into NSW.  There is some potential for this system to produce moderate to heavy rain across SE Australia, Saturday through to Monday with the emphasis on Victoria at this stage.  In respect to severe thunderstorm generation during this time, upper level wind shear does not appear to show any major strength & the upper level shear factor appears to be low.

13 Jane ONeill ASWA meeting - Pancake Parlour Doncaster - 9am start
12 Clyve Herbert Cold front expected in western Victoria tomorrow morning.  The airmass, although not very unstable is conditionally unstable.  The timing of the cold front over central Victoria will be critical with the combination with maximum diurnal heating.  Risks: isolated thunderstorms especially after 1300AEDST ahead of and along the frontal boundary.   Keep an eye on this front on Saturday.
10 Jane ONeill Upper cold pool to the west of Adelaide this morning should move ENE over the next 24 hours.   Keep an eye out for some middle level instability today and especially during the period of maximum heating this afternoon.  Area mostly affected along the ranges & the north east of the state.
10 Andrew McDonald 8th Nov - 13th Nov  <---- dead - weak fronts and then a ridge of high pressure.
14th - ATM I'm forecasting a late thundery change - strength up to moderate - no upper dynamics with it so it should be fairly run of the mill.
15th - Fairly boring with light winds from SW early then swinging around to E later in the day (bringing moisture with it)
16th - Nice low pressure system over central Australia (centre near Ceduna).  Here we should see ENE'ly - NE'ly winds and increasing cloud as the low approaches. Weak-moderate thunderstorms in the NW, N and W.  Bit of upper level action starting to pick up in SA with this too.
17th - Low still sitting to the W (over Adelaide in the morning) and sitting just W of Vic by later in the day.  Upper trough strengthening too. Moderate NE'ly winds across whole state.  3 days of E'lys and NE'ly should see some decent amounts of moisture too.  Weak - Strong thunderstorms in the W and NW and weak-moderate thunderstorms in N and C districts.  Nice outbreak of severe storms in SA probable too.
18th - (Thurs)  As the low doesn't seem to be moving very fast I'd say there isn't much upper winds but they could be on the way.  The low should move into the W overnight and be sitting in perfect position.  N - NE'ly winds and good chance of storms in all districts.  Upper system has been strengthening for the last two days and will hopefully continue this trend. If it does that could possibly see some interesting developments.  Surface winds would be NE-N, 500 winds would be NW'ly (and strengthening if the upper system is strengthening) and some sort of Jet should have moved in (or be moving in) from the W.  Should see weak-severe storms in Central, N, NE and E as well as weak - strong thunderstorms in the W and NW.
19th-22st. - This low splits on Wednesday on the charts with half moving SE and the other half retracting into the centre. If this happens the trough extending N form the SE low will link up with the other low pressure system and move E over NSW and QLD if the jet is in its normal position (across the centre).  This could be perfect for us.  We really might be able to follow a system all the way there - starting with some warm-up chasing in Vic and finishing up with severe storms in NSW and QLD.
9 Clyve Herbert Interesting development as cold front moved through western Victoria.  It underwent frontolysis and developed vorticity near Portland which moved NE.  The flow pattern over Victoria is being rearranged by the development of the deepening low in the Tasman Sea.   Vorticity north of Bendigo also probably reflects cold air at 500hPa which should then move NE into NSW. Showers this evening over western Victoria may extend east to the eastern ranges. 2 lightning discharges have been detected to the NW of Geelong, so there is still a slight risk of storm activity.
9 Clyve Herbert Trough & cold front approaching central Victoria.  Evidence of middle & upper level cold pool.  Surface heating this morning will destabilise conditions further.   Scattered showers in most southern and mountain areas.

Risks: locally heavy showers, isolated thunder, isolated hail.  Snow showers probably down to 1140m on the dividing range.   Further afield, progressive injection of colder air above 600hPa may aid in cyclogenesis over the Tasman, generally east of 151E & north of 34S.  Potential risk to 33S / 152E.

5 Greg Stewart Merbein: Had up to 35mm (reported news) in Mildura today between 1 pm and 4pm. Only 13 mm at our weather station in Merbein. About 50 - 65 mm of rain fell during the storms around Mildura.
4 Clyve Herbert Congesting Cu at 0921AEDST over the ranges to the NE of Melbourne.  Good indication of continuing destabilisation through Thursday with the prospect of isolated to scattered showers and thunderstorms in the west & mountain areas with some activity sneaking onto the plains & into Gippsland.  Risk of very isolated more severe activity later this afternoon in these districts.
2 Clyve Herbert Large high pressure system to the west of Tasmania will probably split with one centre east of Tasmania & one to the west.  Weak non-active trough may develop in the north of Victoria on Wednesday afternoon with the risk of isolated congesting cumulus.  Destabilisation anticipated for the latter part of the week (Friday & Saturday) with increasing likelihood of storms - but mostly middle level.
2 Dane Newman We had 68mm of rain here in Kilsyth for October Ave is 81mm. 2 thunderdays, 1 day of hail(small) and fogs on 2 days. Ave max was 20.2c ave min was 9.1c. Currently (11.20am) temp is 17c dew pt 6c Bar 1029S Wind light southerly Cloud 1 ockta Small Cu. Looks like a low pressure trough will start to affect weather over Victoria on Thursday or Friday. This trough should still be affecting Victoria on Saturday, instability with this trough should should see the development of isolated showers and thunderstorms over the state, slight chance tomorrow in western and northwestern districts and more likely Thursday to Saturday in most districts

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